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STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

 
STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Just found this web-site and it looks fab. I have been away from work for almost 7 months due to depression (diagnosed by my GP) and I am on medication. This was caused due to work related stress - Lack of Support Lack of Specific Training Isolation Being spoken to in an Agressive Manner Employer ignored my calls for help for 5 months that I couldn't cope.

My salary was stopped a few weeks ago, and I was denied Long Term Disability (which would pay a portion of my salary) Occupational Health say I am not fit to return to work for 2-3 months (my GP says longer) and they have declined LTD, so I have no funds coming in. When I asked Occ Health why it was declined, they said it was purely due to timescales, i.e. "it would take 2 months or so to sort the paperwork and you would be back by then" !!!

So in the meantime, I have no income (which is almost 50,000), I can't resign, and I can't go back to work!! I know I am at a low ebb at the moment, but are they trying to get me to resign by leaving me without an income?

Also does a Compromise Agreement payment increase/decrease once your are on LTD?

I look forward to hearing from anybody..... I am trying to be "nice" and don't think I have the energy to get Assertive with my employers, and feel at a real loss as to what may happen next.

Advice please!!!!!! Reply | Write a New Message

MAC

17/10/2006 20:35:38

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Originally posted by MAC:
Just found this web-site and it looks fab. I have been away from work for almost 7 months due to depression (diagnosed by my GP) and I am on medication. This was caused due to work related stress - Lack of Support Lack of Specific Training Isolation Being spoken to in an Agressive Manner Employer ignored my calls for help for 5 months that I couldn't cope.

My salary was stopped a few weeks ago, and I was denied Long Term Disability (which would pay a portion of my salary) Occupational Health say I am not fit to return to work for 2-3 months (my GP says longer) and they have declined LTD, so I have no funds coming in. When I asked Occ Health why it was declined, they said it was purely due to timescales, i.e. "it would take 2 months or so to sort the paperwork and you would be back by then" !!!

So in the meantime, I have no income (which is almost ?50,000), I can't resign, and I can't go back to work!! I know I am at a low ebb at the moment, but are they trying to get me to resign by leaving me without an income?

Also does a Compromise Agreement payment increase/decrease once your are on LTD?

I look forward to hearing from anybody..... I am trying to be "nice" and don't think I have the energy to get Assertive with my employers, and feel at a real loss as to what may happen next.

Advice please!!!!!! Reply | Write a New Message


Hi MAC

I replied to your message under the other message `Stress..`

I would also like to add DO NOT RESIGN WITHOUT TAKING LEGAL ADVICE! This is very important. Your employer should not be able to get away with this and they are probably hoping you will resign so they don`t have to deal with the issues or dismiss you on capabilities / frustration of contract. However, you should be covered under the DDA so you must take advice and soon!

Also, I don`t think you can take your employer to an employment tribunal (ET) if you have not gone through all internal procedures (grievances etc). I may be off the mark with this that is why it is so important to get professional and legal advice. If you were hoping for a Compromise Agreement then that has to be done via a solicitor anyway. The Compromise Agreement would be drawn up and your solicitor would look it over etc.

Take care

La La

18/10/2006 12:42:46

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Originally posted by La La:


Hi MAC

I replied to your message under the other message `Stress..`

I would also like to add DO NOT RESIGN WITHOUT TAKING LEGAL ADVICE! This is very important. Your employer should not be able to get away with this and they are probably hoping you will resign so they don`t have to deal with the issues or dismiss you on capabilities / frustration of contract. However, you should be covered under the DDA so you must take advice and soon!

Also, I don`t think you can take your employer to an employment tribunal (ET) if you have not gone through all internal procedures (grievances etc). I may be off the mark with this that is why it is so important to get professional and legal advice. If you were hoping for a Compromise Agreement then that has to be done via a solicitor anyway. The Compromise Agreement would be drawn up and your solicitor would look it over etc.

Take care

MAC

18/10/2006 17:41:55

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

La La

Thank you so much for your reply, I am seeing a solicitor on Friday - it is so good to hear from someone who can give good advice and who feels how I do. You are right about the bullying, but I have never wanted to admit it. I will let you know how my meeting goes on Firday in case there is anything that can help you too. I am UK based so it should apply to us both.

Good luck, take care and thanks again.

MAC

MAC

18/10/2006 17:45:17

I wish to leave my job

I have far to much work to do. I am sixty-three years of age. I had hoped to retire when I would be sixty-five years of age in 18 months time. I would find it very difficult to tell my superiors abouth this dilema. I feel that if I did say I had to much to do, they will turn round and say, how come I had managed to cope all this time.

Please advise.

pedros

18/10/2006 17:46:05

I wish to leave my job

Originally posted by pedros:
I have far to much work to do. I am sixty-three years of age. I had hoped to retire when I would be sixty-five years of age in 18 months time. I would find it very difficult to tell my superiors abouth this dilema. I feel that if I did say I had to much to do, they will turn round and say, how come I had managed to cope all this time.

Please advise.


Jeez if I were 63 I'd coast along for 18 months, doing the minimum to get by - if you have a final salary pension scheme it makes no difference if you put in the work of 1 or 100 men, you 'll still get the same financially and without the high blood pressure and coronary!

Start winding down NOW - don't tell anyone, no need. Just do your 9-5 and take your lunches as you are contracted to do. You've earned the right to a bit of P&Q after 40 odd years in the field!

Good luck and happy retirement when it comes...

Sagitthairyarse

18/10/2006 18:14:17

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Hi there Mac,,

well i have been through all what you have explained..however my company were on the ball ,these days ,after 4 weeks sick ,this is classed as long term sick,then off to the company gp,then the company get the ball rolling..your company should provide you with aid like counceling sessions and therapy sessions..after 26 weeks you should go onto reduced / half pay ,then with social assistance you if like me go onto incapacity benefit to helpyou along,i can't understand them stopping your money ,this is discrimnation..don't give in as the company will try to release you for nothing other than your notice ,i got into a position where i was offered capability package,of which i went one step further and was aided by a known physical problem i had for many years ,i was then released on a better package,which i accepted for mental and physical problems..

stick with it and seek to see a employment law specialist,i had to pay as my union were awful,but it paid off,ps keep notes of all your work related probs and also recent developments.. yours withy

withy2089

20/10/2006 21:26:22

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Hi Withy

Thanks for your reply, it makes me sad to think that this is not an isolated problem. I did visit a solicitor on Friday (175 per hour!!) and she said that I had a strong case and that I should proceed via DDA etc. etc. There is Holy Hell to pay at work, as the Occ. Health are now changing their mind re refusing me LTD, bet my name is bad news within the HR Dept. who have lovingly not even bothered to contact me yet!! Glad to hear that you got sorted, and once again thank you so much for your support !! Keep in touch....

MAC

MAC

23/10/2006 18:57:54

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Hi La La

Hope you managed to read my last message (above) as I said I would let you know how I got on!

MAC

MAC

23/10/2006 19:01:44

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Hi again MAC

Thanks for letting me now. I am glad you got some good advice but solicitors ain`t cheap are they!!? I hope that you get the outcome you want and that your employers starts treating you with some respect and gets their act together.

An update on my situation. I was sacked today!!!! Just like that! I can`t get my head round it. However my employer has not followed statutory procedures. I have been sacked for basically complaining about being bullied - complaints that they have failed to investigate fairly, thoroughly or promptly. Gone. no job, nothing as of today. In some macarb warped sense I am relieved as I know what I am dealing with and they have shot themselves in the foot. hOwever I now have `sacked` on my employment record that when I explain I have done nothing wrong to warrant being sacked who is going to believe me? I think I am still in shock especially as the bully is still bullying employees and no-one is going to complain about it as if they do they too will be sacked. I worked for a charity!!

Anyway I hope your fortunes and health improve...look after yourself as no-one else will!

Take it easy

La La

Originally posted by MAC:
Hi La La

Hope you managed to read my last message (above) as I said I would let you know how I got on!

MAC

La La

24/10/2006 18:22:38

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Hell Fire La La

I am so sorry for you, HOW DARE THEY!! If you would like my solicitors name, just shout - you get the first half hour free. I may be wrong, but I thought you couldn't give a bad reference by law? and surely they wouldn't want you telling everyone why you were sacked at interview! Is there an HR Dept.?

Wish I could help more, if I can just shout, my neighbour is an HR Director, let me know if you would like some advice from her.......

Keep cool and calm, you will win through this!!!

MAC

MAC

25/10/2006 15:46:39

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Originally posted by MAC:
Just found this web-site and it looks fab. I have been away from work for almost 7 months due to depression (diagnosed by my GP) and I am on medication. This was caused due to work related stress - Lack of Support Lack of Specific Training Isolation Being spoken to in an Agressive Manner Employer ignored my calls for help for 5 months that I couldn't cope.

My salary was stopped a few weeks ago, and I was denied Long Term Disability (which would pay a portion of my salary) Occupational Health say I am not fit to return to work for 2-3 months (my GP says longer) and they have declined LTD, so I have no funds coming in. When I asked Occ Health why it was declined, they said it was purely due to timescales, i.e. "it would take 2 months or so to sort the paperwork and you would be back by then" !!!

So in the meantime, I have no income (which is almost 50,000), I can't resign, and I can't go back to work!! I know I am at a low ebb at the moment, but are they trying to get me to resign by leaving me without an income?

Also does a Compromise Agreement payment increase/decrease once your are on LTD?

I look forward to hearing from anybody..... I am trying to be "nice" and don't think I have the energy to get Assertive with my employers, and feel at a real loss as to what may happen next.

Advice please!!!!!! Reply | Write a New Message


Why have you not found another job instead of tossing it off for 7 months? You will never be able to return to your company and hope everything will be all right, the atmosphere will definitely change. They will see you as a liability at the moment.

Leeroy

27/10/2006 19:27:40

stress

hi mac im going through more or less the same thing as you and im now taking prozac and sleeping tablets because the stress at work got that bad through bullying by management. that im now off work sick. how employers have the nerve to treat employees like crap and get a way with it. now ive just found out that he has taken money that was over payed to me out of my satutory sick pay leaving me with 100. for a month to survive on and with me having a four year old daughter that wont even be enough to pay the bills let alone to feed us. im sure he cant do this to me but i just dont have the energy to fight ant more. so if you still have the fight in you left KEEP FIGHTING for what is right. good luck kerry

kerry

28/10/2006 10:48:26

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Originally posted by Leeroy:


Why have you not found another job instead of tossing it off for 7 months? You will never be able to return to your company and hope everything will be all right, the atmosphere will definitely change. They will see you as a liability at the moment.


Mmmmm, never thought of that, cheers mate!!

MAC

30/10/2006 08:37:54

stress

Originally posted by kerry:
hi mac im going through more or less the same thing as you and im now taking prozac and sleeping tablets because the stress at work got that bad through bullying by management. that im now off work sick. how employers have the nerve to treat employees like crap and get a way with it. now ive just found out that he has taken money that was over payed to me out of my satutory sick pay leaving me with 100. for a month to survive on and with me having a four year old daughter that wont even be enough to pay the bills let alone to feed us. im sure he cant do this to me but i just dont have the energy to fight ant more. so if you still have the fight in you left KEEP FIGHTING for what is right. good luck kerry


Poor you Kerry,

Do you work for a large company with an HR Dept? or do you know anyone who has HR experience that you can talk to? If the answer to both is no, then you should go to the Citizens Advice Bureau - from what you said, it does not seem fair let alone legal!

Keep your spirits up and concentrate on whats good in your life, do everything your GP says to get better, then you will find the strength to fight for whats fair!

Regards MAC

MAC

30/10/2006 08:41:35

STRESS AT WORK ADVICE PLEASE

Originally posted by MAC:
Hell Fire La La

I am so sorry for you, HOW DARE THEY!! If you would like my solicitors name, just shout - you get the first half hour free. I may be wrong, but I thought you couldn't give a bad reference by law? and surely they wouldn't want you telling everyone why you were sacked at interview! Is there an HR Dept.?

Wish I could help more, if I can just shout, my neighbour is an HR Director, let me know if you would like some advice from her.......

Keep cool and calm, you will win through this!!!

MAC


Hi MAC!

Thanks for your message and your offer. I have currently got my unions solicitors on board for an employment tribunal - Unfair Dismissal...and the rest!!! My now ex employer can not even follow the statutory minimum requirements for dismissal so it is automatically unfair - and 4 weeks gross pay in my back pocket without doing anything! They think they are above the law! The HR director authorised my dismissal Plus they won`t tell me what evidence they have used to dismiss me or the full reasons why!! As my union said I became a thorn in their side - highlighting managers incompetacies, bullying and health and safety issues- everything which they wanted covered up as the organisation is held in high esteem in the area - a charity!

The bully has started on someone else - this started 24 hours after I was dismissed. The bully won`t stop. I am actually relieved to be out of there but now have try and get another job.

I hope everything is ok with you and your employer has got it`s act together.

Take care

La La

La La

04/11/2006 23:08:30

I resigned, not thinking straight also i am on medication

Hi, I have probaly made one of the stupid mistakes of my life, I was originally brought in to the construction company to help the directors brother 10 months ago as he was struggling to keep up with the work load, after approx 3-4 months i was left on my own to cope, I was originally employed as a buyer / hirer for the company,

Since the matey i was working with was taken away from me and put on the road over night i had the following job titles not that i was paid for them,

Yard person, stores person, Buyer, Hirer & transport clerk, Breakdown patrol and basically sorted everyones problems out, approx 120 employees, i was like their problem solver as well as trying to do the job i was originally paid to do,

I did not mind the varied role but since then the company has grew three times larger easily and i had to shout and scream and then i got a man in the yard to take some presure off me,and another in the office to take my calls, it was nice at first, but it didnt last long as they were getting bigger contracts so the more busier i was, so still felt like i was back at the beginning

Cut the long story short i went to the doctors a couple of times in the last month as i felt well agitated and stressed, The doctor said i was having anxiety attacks, My GP then gave me some tablets to take which have helped me a bit, but last friday another head ache of my computer not working AGAIN at work so i blew a fuse and resigned verbally as i couldnt carry on trying to do my job because of the pc,

I spoke to one manager and as soon as i had told him that i had resigned and i was on medication he couldnt say get me paid up quick enough and let me go BECAUSE I WAS ON MEDICATION, i could not believe what i was hearing over the telephone,

I spoke to my director on the saturday and he said do i fancy coming in for a chat on Monday (today) so i though ok, as i had calmed down, so he asked what had happened friday, several little things built up over the course of the morning i said,

I said to my director i had lost it as i was not thinking staright and he knew i was on medication and he said because of that for my health and that is was on MEDICATION he was letting me go even though can i try again but he said i may relapse in a few weeks,

But after all the above he said he had to let me go because i was ON MEDICATION,

Surely that cant be right, where do i stand, what is this DDA?, my doctor which i had to go back to today and tell him, pre arranged appouintment from getting the tablets the other week i had to tell him things have got worse and i have just thrown a 24000 pound job away, but i was in a diffarent world at the time due to the stress at work, now i am left with nothing,

basically my bosses are getting rid of me because i am on medication for anxiety attacks,

please help

Dont Know What to do now

19/02/2007 21:21:15

I resigned, not thinking straight also i am on medication

You poor thing - I originally started this tread (mac) and I am still in the throws of trying to get things sorted.

DDA normally applies if your mental health has been poor for 12 months or is likely to be for 12 months (that is my understanding) there are some websites below that I found very helpful - take some time to read them through.

Did you resign in writing? Not sure, but there may be a case where you can withdraw your verbal resignation.

Again, as far as I am aware, you have full employment rights after 12 months, if you can withdraw your resignation and hold out, you will have much more legal support to help.

You can discuss your situation with a solicitor - most have a complimentary session for 30 mins - during that time a good employment solicitor will be able to advise you what your next step should be.

I am no legal expert AT ALL but I have learnt so much through my own situation......

http://www.openuptoolkit.net/news/news_item.php?newsId=27

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/HealthAndSupport/MentalHealth/DG_10023351

Good luck, let me know if I you need more help.

Cheers.

AJJ

20/02/2007 10:36:20

sick from work

i have been off sick from work with depression caused by bullying and intimidation but very hard to prove. I complain higher than my manager but that made it worse. I got a phone call of one of the directors who said to me anyone can say they re feeling under the weather and get a sick note. Now they have made an appointment for me to see a medical doctor of there own i have been told by someone from work tht they are hoping to prove i am lying and fire me. I have been there two years can they do that

shirley

20/02/2007 13:52:17

sick from work

Originally posted by shirley:
i have been off sick from work with depression caused by bullying and intimidation but very hard to prove. I complain higher than my manager but that made it worse. I got a phone call of one of the directors who said to me anyone can say they re feeling under the weather and get a sick note. Now they have made an appointment for me to see a medical doctor of there own i have been told by someone from work tht they are hoping to prove i am lying and fire me. I have been there two years can they do that


No they can't, not for that reason anyway - have you got depression on your medical records and have you been prescribed medication?

Don't worry about visiting their Dr, they have to be very careful in their assessment, they are not like HR who are only there to take care of the company, they have their professional ethics to look after.

Regardless of what anybody says, you cannot make up or pretend to have clinical depression, go to the medical with confidence and just be honest - take someone with you to give you support.

Last of all, you need to make a FORMAL Grievance regarding the bullying, then they will have to take it seriously and investigate it properly.... take legal advice or speak to your union.

Chin up!!

AJJ

20/02/2007 20:32:33